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Melanie Newfield's avatar

Oh no, sorry you've got Covid, it's no fun.

Good point about the comparison with measles. Its ability to continue evolving and escaping our immunity means that it continues to be a threat, although much diminished.

I still consider direct animal-human transmission the most likely scenario, probably because I've read accounts of so many other zoonoses which have entered the human population that way. But I think lab escape can't be ruled out.

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Stephanie -- SO SORRY you are suffering with COVID. I hope you come through it completely with no long-term impact. I have a good friend who I play tennis with occasionally who never recovered his sense of taste a full three years later -- ugh. Almost two months ago I started feeling not so great (no positive COVID test to that point). I would imagine I have take 15-20 COVID tests over the years. During my slow viral infection I took 4-5 tests and they were always negative. Maybe I've had it before but who knows.

Anxiety and close-mindedness is an interesting issue for humans. What we call COVID is just the 7th broad coronavirus examples that have affected humanity. It is amazing to me that people treat it as something genuinely novel. I think they have mostly emerged in high population density areas although one of them likely emerged in the San Diego area. I'm glad via the CDC we monitor birds for the emergence of new flus that might jump species. I think they were first noted in Hong Kong back in 1997. The US worked hard to train and deploy early warning systems over time. It is one of the least talked about bad policies that had outsized consequences when the US WITHDREW its training programs for identifying bird flus from labs like Wuhan over a trade spat just before COVID messed up the whole world.

I want to compliment you on a VERY GOOD primer on the spread of disease. Very easy to follow!!!

Time for some opinion to stir the pot :) I wrote a post about the first vaccine back in the lat 1700s. It is amazing how BAD THE COMPLEXION was of many of the Founding Fathers. Smallpox was an absurd scourge. I give people the benefit of the doubt about acting foolishly over vaccines. There were tons of rubes who were "just asking questions ala Joe Rogan" through the 19th and 20th Century about smallpox. Smallpox killed more people in the 20th century than the great influenza and the two world wars combined. People subordinate expert advice to myth and will always do that.

Walking upright for 2M years and we've only been doing vaccines for 200 years so I guess I can understand how readily manipulable people might be. Its okay for some subset of us to just get it wrong or be easily duped. I am thankful that COVID turned out to not have a high kill rate. For that we were fortunate. My sense is I don't have any children who went down the rabbit hole with nuttiness and I am VERY GRATEFUL. We've had less than 30 years of Coronaviruses. One of them killed a fair amount of us. Two of them before COVID had higher kill rates. My sense is the next Coronavirus just may have a Darwinian impact on the doubters. I hope not but rolling the dice with your lives and influencers on X sounds like a bad plan. My sense is the influencers who rant about the next vaccine will secretly get the jab while selling advertising on TikTok or driving turnout for their votes.

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